100x More Programmers: Who Controls What They Build?

Tank Talks host Matt Cohen sits down with Tailscale co-founder and CEO Avery Pennarun — who’s built his company out of Canada while competing head-to-head with much bigger players — for a conversation about a shift that could reshape computing: AI making programming accessible to hundreds of millions, maybe billions, of people who’ve never written a line of code.

But making software easier to create raises a bigger question: do we end up rebuilding the mainframe around a handful of AI companies that control the models, data, compute, and tools — or build something more open, where those pieces stay portable and replaceable?

Avery makes the case for why the next era of computing needs secure agents and open infrastructure, and what it actually takes for “open” to win against companies with far more resources to build closed, convenient alternatives.